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Ep 87: Escape from TS4

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Scott and Josh catch up on the two new releases/unveils that are Toy Story 4 and Escape from the Megaverse. Also they talk about the response to Flippin the Script.

Highlights

  • Toy Story 4 information was leaked 12 hours before official announcement after someone discovered it on JJP.com via direct URL guessing, not through distributor leak
  • Guns N' Roses sold approximately 2,000 units at $9,500, with roughly half being Limited/Collector's Edition models
  • Toy Story 4's simpler code is likely a direct result of Disney/Pixar licensing requirements, not design choice
  • JJP deliberately avoided producing a Pro/Standard tier for Toy Story 4 to prevent cannibalization of Premium/CE sales
  • Pat Lawlor's Stern-era games (Monopoly, Roller Coaster Tycoon, NASCAR, Family Guy, Shrek, CSI) are not considered standouts in his legacy
  • Toy Story 4 features a full-size iPad-like LCD screen significantly reducing playfield real estate

Notable quotes

Guys, girls, you gotta understand this is Disney and Pixar. They're a very hard licensor to appease...if someone from JJP said, 'Hey, the reason we did the code the way we did is because Disney specifically requested that it be more accessible to children, because it's a theme for children.'
Josh Roop
I feel like there's no other in between...The high-level players will boss it around...you're not going to see as much buy-in from the tournament players
Scott Larson
For what you get in the game, I feel like the only thing that passes on this is because it's Toy Story, because they got Tim Allen, because they got Annie Potts...I just don't think any other theme would have got a write-off.
Josh Roop
JJP is looking for the big, the flashy, the higher-end product with the high-end price tag...Stern is Ford. That's what Stern is. Stern is volume...JJP is obviously not selling as many games as Stern...they're taking more profit per game sold than Stern is.
Scott Larson
Someone needs to fess up and say, 'Hey, like, it looks – there a lot of egg on your face when the guy that makes the playfields cuts his seminar 40 minutes short because he's getting hammered with questions about his playfields.'
Josh Roop
If you're going to be that company, the quality needs to match the product. I don't feel like you get a quality enough game...if you're going to have the high price tag, I want the highest quality that I can obtain.
Josh Roop
My son Grayson, my three-year-old that has autism – he has a rough time falling asleep at night. We have been laying down watching the gameplay by Joe Katz, and it's what calms him down...There is some entrancement to this game.
Josh Roop
It's a $2,500 increase from Guns N' Roses initial release...even with inflation, an increase of basically 25 percent or slightly more than 25 percent, that's a big jump.
Josh Roop
I would love to have a Toy Story. I'm not paying for it realistically at this point. I'd have to get rid of one of my Stern Premiums and one of my old Williams Valleys. I'd have to sell one and a half games to do it.
Josh Roop
If you want your kids to play more pinball, get them this game...I guarantee when people come over, that's one of the first games they'll play.
Josh Roop

Entities

  • Disney/Pixar· company
  • Flippin' Out Pinball· company
  • Jersey Jack Pinball· company
  • Marco Specialties· company
  • Stern Pinball· company
  • Texas Pinball Festival· event
  • Black Knight· game
  • Deadpool· game
  • Dialed In· game
  • Godzilla· game
  • Guns N' Roses· game
  • Pirates of the Caribbean· game
  • Shrek· game
  • The Beatles· game
  • Toy Story 4· game
  • Flippin' Out Pinball Podcast· media
  • Straight Down the Middle· media
  • Annie Potts· person
  • Eric Meunier· person
  • Joe Katz· person
  • Josh Roop· person
  • Pat Lawlor· person
  • Scott Larson· person
  • Tim Allen· person

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