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Ep 99: Lease with Option to Buy

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Let's talk about Elwin's new release with Bond 60th. Also, Josh and Scott talk about their favorite moments from the last 4 years.

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Highlights

  • Bond 60th Anniversary is the first single-version release from Stern since Tron (no Pro/Premium/LE tiers)
  • Only 500 units of Bond 60th Anniversary available globally
  • Bond sales underperformed compared to Rush, Godzilla, and other cornerstones
  • The retro Bond game was a licensor request, not a Stern internal idea
  • James Bond licensing process is difficult and meticulous; licensor willing to 'pull the plug at the last second'
  • Bond 60th Anniversary has four spinners: first pinball ever with four spinners
  • Main James Bond game code is at version 0.80 and still has 'a long way to go'
  • Stern selling Bond 60th directly at ~$20,000 creates unfair pressure on distributor pricing
  • Bond 60th Anniversary units are not selling quickly through distributors
  • Bond 60th Anniversary manufacturing cost likely $5,000–$6,000 (typical 50% retail rule)

Notable quotes

“No. But I will say that they probably didn't anticipate it being as challenging as it was. Because we know that the Bond sales aren't on par with what Rush sales were, with what Godzilla sales were.”
Scott Larson
“I still think there's a little bit of buyer's remorse, and I think the part that sucks about all this is it just: there's been a mark that has been missed. It feels like by the time that James Bond finally gets the love from the code and everything, this could be bypassed by the next title.”
Scott Larson
“Why aren't we color-coding the screws? Like the LCD screen bezel is all black and you're screwing it in with these silver screws.”
Josh Roop
“I would say the elephant in the room is $20,000 is the only option you can buy. That's true.”
Scott Larson
“If there was a standard, would you go for it? I'm nervous just because it's an unknown quantity... At $9,500, I would buy this game. Um, I can't justify the: and this is a personal thing, right?”
Scott Larson
“Stern needs to realize they are the love letter to themes and to pop culture. They are not the pop culture. They are not Supreme. They are the people that make stuff for Supreme.”
Josh Roop
“People buy themes first. We've talked about this a million times... Did you buy it based off of gameplay? Nope.”
Josh Roop & Scott Larson
“I just: it left me kind of wanting more. I wish we'd: I wish there would have been a gameplay. Just even like a three-minute gameplay.”
Scott Larson
“I think they're testing to see if there is a bigger market for a Supreme-style game where you are selling exclusivity.”
Josh Roop
“But from the distributors I have talked to, these aren't moving quick. Um, the 60th is not moving quick.”
Josh Roop

Entities

  • Flippin' Out Pinball· company
  • Stern Pinball· company
  • Supreme (fashion brand)· company
  • Pinball Industry Awards· event
  • Twippies (This Week in Pinball awards)· event
  • Avengers (Stern pinball)· game
  • Batman SLE (Super Limited Edition)· game
  • Bond 60th Anniversary· game
  • Deadpool (Stern pinball)· game
  • Elvira 40th Anniversary· game
  • Godzilla (Stern pinball)· game
  • James Bond (main cornerstone version)· game
  • Rush (Stern pinball)· game
  • The Beatles (Stern pinball)· game
  • James Bond IP / Licensor· organization
  • Loser Kid Pinball Podcast· organization
  • Pinside· organization
  • Silver Ball Chronicles· organization
  • Stern Insider (podcast)· organization
  • David Dennis· person
  • George Gomez· person
  • Josh Roop· person
  • Keith Elwin· person
  • Mark Pacinto· person
  • Scott Larson· person
  • Zach Mandy· person

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