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Episode 181 - Pro vs Prem

PodcastAnalysis updated 4d ago1 hr 14 min listenBy Dennis Kriesel & Tony Kurkowski
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Pinball: We talk about Stern Pinball shipping Bond Pro models and soon ending their Home edition runs of Jurassic Park and Star Wars. We discuss CGC's CCrLE finally shipping. We spend a brief about...

Highlights

  • Star Wars and Jurassic Park home edition pins are being discontinued after final production runs
  • Chicago Gaming Company ground down CCR LE toppers at bench grinders to fix fitting issues
  • CCR LE production delays exceeded one year, causing at least one customer to switch to a different CGC game
  • Twippies 2024 will not have a live stream and will be recorded at Texas Pinball Festival
  • Drained is the first third-party module commercially released for the Multimorphic P3 system
  • Drained module is priced at $3,500 with a $2,000 deposit required
  • Functional EM pinball machines are available for under $3,500, creating pricing competition for Drained
  • Toy Story 4 stretched out tournament length by requiring additional rounds due to strike equalization

Notable quotes

I just found it a little – I mean maybe by Home Pin standards it was a great seller, but clearly it's not – that's either not great enough to keep – well, no. That's clearly not great enough to keep around.
Dennis
My strategy would have been drop doing it at TPF and go back to doing it live stream. You're compromising so many – I mean what's the goal for it would be the question.
Tony
The whole point of live streaming, even if you prerecord it and put it out like as a YouTube premiere, is so that everyone in the chat is learning things at the same time, and they're all in the event together.
Tony
I'm not convinced that they're doing any actual meaningful steps to prevent fraudulent votes. And I get it. It's hard. That's why I hate people's choice is because you're inviting ballot stuffing through services and everything.
Dennis
Coin Op Carnival that publication that Ryan Claytor and Nick Baldridge did lost to Pinball Magazine's newsletters Pinball Magazine didn't have an issue out Even the Pinball Magazine editor was like, this doesn't really make sense.
Dennis
There are people who are already committed on P3 systems that, and this is my judgment, this is my estimation, there are a number of those people that hunger for anything that adds value to their system.
Dennis
You can get functional EMs for under $3,500 is the issue. So one of the commercial challenges that I think is interesting, this is obviously going to explore, is if you're talking about EM style gameplay, how competitive is a module versus when the games are actually full games or cheaper?
Dennis
I took my satin brushes and just went, and then I used my deburring brush and went, and then I was like, and I used the blue polishing compound, which says on the thing, this is good for plastic.
Dennis
It's not like here's literally an EM game. You're not having to worry about the maintenance and upkeep on an EM, which is very intimidating to a lot of people.
Dennis
Now Drained is a vampire-themed game, but it's also a module. This is the first time that a third-party module has been released for the P3.
Dennis

Entities

  • Chicago Gaming Company· company
  • Multimorphic· company
  • Stern Pinball· company
  • Twippies· event
  • Avengers Infinity Quest· game
  • CCR LE· game
  • Drained· game
  • Ghostbusters· game
  • James Bond (Gomez design)· game
  • Jungle Queen· game
  • Jurassic Park (home edition)· game
  • Ranger in the Ruins· game
  • Star Wars (home edition)· game
  • Toy Story 4· game
  • Weird Al (P3 module)· game
  • 403· organization
  • Nubs Pub· organization
  • Dennis· person
  • Nick Baldridge· person
  • Raymond Davidson· person
  • Ryan Claytor· person
  • Tony· person
  • Will O'Edding· person
  • Zach Minney· person

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