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Episode 222 - Toppers & Brothership

PodcastAnalysis updated 6d ago1 hr 2 min listenBy Dennis Kriesel & Tony Kurkowski
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Pinball: We update regarding the Funhouse Remakes, ABBA, Spooky's big move, Stern's return of the Black Knight, JJP and Elton John production, and Stern's reveal of arguably the ugliest topper ever....

Highlights

  • Spooky Pinball is moving to another facility, their third or fourth facility shift, while maintaining machinery at their current location
  • Jersey Jack Pinball has completed production of all 1,000 Elton John Collector's Edition units and is now producing platinum editions
  • Black Knight Sword of Rage Pro Edition is being produced again by Stern due to sufficient demand
  • Stern's Jaws topper costs $1,000 and features a lenticular transition effect between vandalized and non-vandalized Amity sign
  • Spike 3 is expected to be released sometime in 2024 with iterative improvements in RAM, processor speed, and storage
  • Funhouse remakes are shipping and Pedretti is producing them, also used by Pinball Brothers for ABBA production
  • Pinball toppers are experiencing significant price increases; the Mandalorian topper cost $2,000 while Jaws topper costs $1,000
  • Venom Premium is significantly superior to Venom Pro due to game state changes and playfield layout differences
  • Foo Fighters Pro is ranked highly for value because the missing ball kick save in the left out lane is the only meaningful difference from Premium
  • Spike 2 machines boot significantly slower than older SAM system machines, taking 30+ seconds vs under 5 seconds

Notable quotes

toppers are just getting out of control in cost, and people are buying them, and people love them. But I'm wondering at what point do we end up where toppers are half the cost of a machine and people are still buying them?
Tony
if the markup on toppers is anything less than 800%, I'd be amazed
Dennis
Do you think maybe they're using the toppers to have a high margin of return to help keep themselves from further raising the machine prices?
Tony
I wouldn't get 007 no matter what...I don't think this is a good stern to get
Dennis
I don't think anything between 10 and 15 is worth spending your money on
Dennis
I just don't like the game...I can't – something about the layout in particular just – it doesn't work for me
Tony
if there was no limitations, a Godzilla premium would be my first choice. But you didn't ask us about premiums
Tony
Venom Premium is so much cooler, and it's not even a popular game. So here's what you do. You wait for Venom Premiums to be sold used for the price of the pros, and then you buy a premium.
Dennis
it feels like if they'd had the place built specific for them maybe there's not room to just do an expansion
Tony
I hope I got your accent exactly as it is. I will say I'm less interested in the gummy snakes and I'm more interested in the rum you shared with us last time because nothing's ever made my teeth numb before
Dennis

Entities

  • Elwyn Games· company
  • Jersey Jack Pinball· company
  • Pedretti· company
  • Pinball Brothers· company
  • Spooky Pinball· company
  • Stern Pinball· company
  • 007 Bond· game
  • ABBA· game
  • Avengers· game
  • Black Knight Sword of Rage· game
  • Foo Fighters· game
  • Funhouse· game
  • Godzilla· game
  • Jaws· game
  • Mandalorian· game
  • Rush· game
  • Venom· game
  • Chris G· person
  • Dennis· person
  • George Gomez· person
  • Richard· person
  • Rodden· person
  • Scott G· person
  • Tony· person
  • Zach· person

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